Podcast 495: 2024 Year in Review and What to Expect in 2025

In this special annual episode, join hosts Scott Patton and Martin Pytela as they reflect on the year 2024, examining the most impactful events and trends that have emerged. With a focus on the astrological influences of Pluto in Capricorn transitioning to Pluto in Aquarius, they explore how these celestial movements resonate with societal changes, individual responsibilities, and emerging technologies. The episode also delves into the critical role of Uranus, particularly as it sets the stage for revolutionary shifts beginning in 2025, and what that means for humanity’s future.

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SCOTT: Ho ho ho! Merry Christmas everybody. It’s Christmas Eve. It’s early in the day on the West Coast. It’s midday on the East coast. Who knows what time it is in Europe, but we’re here for our annual look back, look forward, and we’re going to get into it right after this.

Merry Christmas Martin.

MARTIN: Merry Christmas Scott. I like the new look of that intro piece that you put together. That’s really sweet.

SCOTT: Thank you. And I did it just for you before Christmas as a Christmas gift.

MARTIN: Gratitude abounds.

SCOTT: Weeks and weeks and weeks of editing and learning, I had to learn all the music, all the instruments in order to be able to play the background music. So, Martin, we spend a lot of time talking about health, and things that we can eat and mental things that we can do, emotional things that we can do. We rarely spend any time on the stars and the moons and the impacts that the planets that have on our life. Except usually for this look forward, look back that we do every year. So why don’t we talk a little bit about the past year and actually like the past 16 years maybe. And what that cycle was and what we saw happening in the last almost 20 years, and what we see coming, or what the astrology says is going to be coming in the next little while. See what happens.

MARTIN: Yes indeed. This is the time to review. Here’s something really interesting. Astrology, I’m not really interested in catching every little thing, as the planets move day to day minute to minute. I’m not too interested in that. But the outer planets, they actually create movements, they actually affect us here in large scale long term things. We have had, well, we were looking at Pluto. And Pluto is the planet of rebirth, reconfiguration, of renewal. Pluto’s energy is as such that it burns down everything. It’s sort of like burning down the barn so you can find all the nails that you use, so you can go and move and build a new one somewhere else. It’s a serious burn down. Sifting in ashes looking for diamonds. It’s that sort of energy of really bringing it down. So, the Pluto in Capricorn ended on November 19th 2024, just a month ago. And we are now firmly in Pluto in Aquarius. And we’ll talk about that, but I’d like to review what the prediction for Pluto in Capricorn was, it started in about 2008. And here’s what we have, corrupting influence of power, real powers behind the throne, that which will be renewed. Pluto demands that we reform and change our approach, if we don’t we crash. Pluto in Capricorn is testing the foundations of our power structures to see if they are built in alignment with the laws of deeper reality. So anything that is built on lies, deception, illusion, egotism, all that will be burned through. Transformed.

SCOTT: Would this apply also to the individuals who lives are built on lies?

MARTIN: Oh yeah, we lived through the period. It affects us, all of us individually, and collectively it’s projecting through our entire society.

SCOTT: Because there’s been a signifcant change in censorship the last little while. Right.

MARTIN: Yeah, well, this is not the end of the world, it’s the breakdown of trust in government and disillusionment with authority. This was written at the beginning of it, right? By the way, I want to acknowledge Jessica Davidson. She is an awesome astrologer, and I have looked at her work for years. She deserves—well, if you’re into it, go look at her website—www.jessicadavidson.co.uk and spend $10 on her, just like I do, to appreciate the work that she’s done. She’s just phenomenal. Anyway, here’s a line from her work: “Pluto in Capricorn is telling us it’s time for all individuals to step up and take responsibility for themselves as global citizens.” Did we? Some of us did, right? Yeah, and I can’t help feel that the consequences for not doing it were severe. Not severe by some outside force, like the police or rescuer or something like that but in terms of like excess deaths that have been going on.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, let’s make it personal. Pluto in Capricorn is about how you, each one of us, use your power and the inner sense of responsibility for yourself. As in the agency. Right? Am I the author of my life, or am I just buffeted by winds of change. We can transmute pain into wisdom. How’s that for a line?

SCOTT: Transmute pain into wisdom. Yes. I mean, there’s so many people that aren’t doing that.

MARTIN: Yeah. We have learned so much through these last four years. This Covid episode was just such a learning opportunity. You may undergo the slow death of the ego or your false self and experience a psychological and emotional rebirth. How many of us have had our nuts in a vise and finally have come on the other side, realizing that we have to stand for something?

SCOTT: Yeah, that’s true. There are so many people that are speaking out and researching stuff and telling their friends to vote for this mayor. I mean, don’t vote for the city council. Don’t vote for the school board person. It’s amazing the change, the activity, right?

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: And I think it’s because they realized we abdicated our responsibilities. And because of that, there was a lot of things happening in the schools, in the cities and the states and in the country people didn’t like.

MARTIN: Step up. Here’s another line from Jessica. Pluto in Capricorn was encouraging you to redefine your relationship with authority, not just with those in power over you, but your own inner authority. It may be time to accept your own power, accept your own power, and do what you can to serve humanity at this critical time. So thoughts. These things that we had to contemplate over the last 18, 16 years, how do you take responsibility for yourself? Are you a leader or a follower? Do you allow yourself to be herded like a sheep by those in power? Can you learn to become more self-sufficient? Are you aligned with your true moral compass within? How solid is the ground on which you have built your life structure?

SCOTT: Right. What comes up for me, Martin, as you’re talking, is the power of no. Like, no, I’m not doing that. Right? And we’ve seen lots of protests, large protests, that sort of thing. But what came up for me was, I was in a hotel in Medellin, Colombia, and it was a really funky hotel. And but the room that I was in, the air conditioning didn’t work. Now, I don’t know how, maybe didn’t work before I moved in, and they knew, but they gave me this room. It wasn’t hot, so I mean, I didn’t need the air conditioning, but they came in. They said the air conditioning is not working. We’re going to move you to another room just as funky, like basically the one down the hall. And so I moved in and I unpacked everything. And then at 10:00 at night, this guy knocks on my door and he’s the receptionist downstairs and he says: “Oh, you’re in here.” And I go “yeah, they moved me in here.” He say: “Well, you have to go back because I guess they didn’t change booking” or whatever it was. So the result was someone else came in late and booked that room. So I’m looking at him. It’s 10:30 at night. I’m tired. I have unpacked everything and I just said “No.” He looks at me. I said: “No, they moved me in here. It’s late. Put him in that room.” To my shock and amazement, I was expecting it like a fight. He just said: “Okay.” And he left. I think that we are so conflict averse for some reason. Yeah, we just don’t stand up. Right. And I thought, well,

MARTIN: Well, there are two personalities styles, right? To get along type and the I’m right, you’re not. So that’s the, there are some of us are internally referencing, others are externally referencing. And the externally referencing person will say, well, what do you think? The internal referencing person will say here’s how we’re going to do it. He’s not asking what you think. He already knows what he wants to do. Right. So there’s the balance of it, right? Sometimes we need to play along to get along. Sometimes not so much. I think it was just perfectly fine. I mean, the logical conclusion was, look, you have a room, just not this one.

SCOTT: That’s right. Yeah. And I think that we need to just stand up and say no more often, right? Like, there was a fellow whose child was not allowed to go to school unless they had the vaccination.

MARTIN: Yep.

SCOTT: And, and so he, he talked to the school and everything that they told him was like, no, there’s no way he can come to school. And the man said, well, no, my son’s coming to school. And then he did. So then he got off the phone with the principal. He did a little research, and he discovered that there was an exemption form that you could fill out. It was masks. Sorry. You have to wear a mask at school, not the vaccine. And so he’s finds this form and he calls the school up and he says, I understand there’s this mask exemption form. And they go, oh yeah. Like they could have told him, right? But they knew.

MARTIN: But they don’t want the exception.

SCOTT: They didn’t want the exception. Right. Because what would that do to everybody else? So they said yeah, they sent him the form, emailed him the form, and then he emailed it to 500 parents of the school.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: Almost nobody in that school wore a mask. Right. Because they all showed up with this piece of paper, oh, my!

SCOTT: I find it just, that’s standing up to authority, right? But the authority is abused when they, this is the way it is when the fact is there are options. Right. The principal said, listen, we have an exemption form if you want to fill it out. Blah Blah Blah. But their, bureaucratic mind was we were told masks, and we’re going to make sure you wear those masks. And that I think is a huge problem with authority, right? Like if you don’t want to do it, just say no.

MARTIN: Right. So, again reflecting on the last 16 years, the social structures we have built are collapsing because they’re based on values and ideas that no longer work for the mass of humanity. So now there was one other powerful alignment, Uranus-Pluto square. And that coincided with the 2008. I don’t know if you remember back in 2008, that’s when this whole thing kicked off and it was amplified by this energy of Uranus-Pluto square. And we had the financial crisis. Yeah, we had the financial collapse in the United States. the kickoff of the Pluto in Capricorn. And the greatest peak of that period was Saturn-Pluto alignment, the conjunction. And that happened in January of 2020.

SCOTT: Mhm.

MARTIN: Do you remember January 2020?

SCOTT: I do. I had a really bad cold that didn’t seem to go away.

MARTIN: Yeah. The madness kicked off. And then finally to the end or towards the end, now nearing 2024. Saturn was aligning with Uranus, which is an upset… Well, okay. There was this one period was Pluto return, which is soul searching for America. So the Pluto return 2022, 2023 is an opportunity to reaffirm the values of the Constitution and apply them to all peoples. Can you believe that this was written in 2008? Pluto return 22-23 will be an opportunity to reaffirm the values of the Constitution in the United States and apply them to all peoples, no matter their color, gender, religion or wealth.

SCOTT: So that was an opportunity. Do you think that it was realized?

MARTIN: Well, I think yes, I think the entire collapse of the establishment hold on the government and the election of this bunch of renegades, just a bunch of misfits, all rejects, right? Like the Democrat Party, the one that’s currently held by the establishment, the deep state, the the big corporations. Those are their buddies, all of the rejects. They rejected Tulsi Gabbard, they rejected Robert Kennedy, they rejected, I don’t know, a whole bunch of other names that I can’t recall on the spot. They all banded together. It’s almost like Star Wars in the ragtag bunch of rebels that are just taking down the empire. That’s what that felt like to me.

Yeah. Okay, so anyway, I’m just saying this to to establish that Pluto in Capricorn was predictable, predicted and written out. And we could have read these lines back in 2008 and wonder what that’s going to mean in reality. Well, the reality is that Pluto is demanding that we reform and change our approach. If we don’t, we crash.

SCOTT: And that’s definitely the platform of the incoming president and congress and senate. Is we need to we need to, everything that’s been happening has been not good. And they’re going to rip it all apart. So the draining of the swamp that they talked about.

MARTIN: Yeah, yeah. It’s happening. So listen to this. So Pluto is now in Aquarius and will be there until 2044. So the next 20 years. Okay. Last time this happened, it was in 1777 to 1797.

SCOTT: Wow. So it takes a long time to rotate through these.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. 248 years. So we had Catherine the Great in Russia doing reformations and reforms. America happened. What happened in 1770 something, right? In 76, we had the independence declared. But then in 83, we have the war and then Treaty of Versailles, the Constitution, Bill of rights. All of that happened under that influence.

MARTIN: French Revolution occurred then, too, didn’t it? Yeah, right. 1789, July 14th, Bastille Day.

MARTIN: And there was a whole bunch of revolutionary stuff taken. Well, I’ll explain.

SCOTT: The power was going back to the people. Right.

SCOTT: They guillotined the king of France.

MARTIN: Yeah. That’s right. But there was more. Right. Like revolutionary things in technology, too, taking place. So here’s what we have. Here are the words looking forward into the next 20 years. The need of our society to reform by introducing new ideas and working together in friendship to create a greater freedom. Aquarius takes an objective view, so it can take new theories and plans and create change. Now unfortunately, not all of these ideas will be correct. So groupthink and fanaticism is a possible downside of it. And we’re still seeing that there are a whole bunch of people who have ideas of the collectivist sort, or who have ideas of the transhumanist sort, where they want to merge humans with technology. It’s one group and the other group,

SCOTT: So. Martin, let me interrupt you for a second because you have experience of communism.

MARTIN: Yes, I did. Intimate.

SCOTT: I totally agree that there’s definitely a strong fringe reality according which is quoting the Prime Minister of Canada, left wing, that really wants hard on Chinese Communism to take over. So can you talk for a few minutes about your experience of communism and what it was like living under communism?

MARTIN: Yeah, I was born in Czechoslovakia in 1952, four years prior to that, in 1948, there was a coup where the Communist Party took government. It was supported by Russia, the Soviet Union then. And all of a sudden you had communists in power. Almost immediately they started cleansing the party and they created a whole bunch of judicial processes. They were actually similar to what happened in the United States during the days of McCarthy. Mccarthyism, the un-American activities. Well, back there in Europe, people were chased and hounded for activities that would be counter to rule of the worker class. Anyway, I was born into this madness and grew up in a society where a lie was perpetrated on everyone. We would be taught in the school, I actually went all the way to university and I do have a board exam, meaning that I was there in front of three educated professor types, and I was supposed to advance or show how good I was at understanding. And the subject was Marxist-Leninist doctrine. So I actually have a state board exam in that. And so in studying for that, I had to read the information Karl Marx, the Kapital, the Russian, Lenin, Stalin, all of that sort of stuff. Here’s the bottom of it. I knew I was lying when I was saying the things that I was saying. The commission knew that I was lying. I knew that they knew I was lying. They knew that I knew that they knew they were lying. It was just a charade. We were just standing up there and quoting the verse and chapter of this bullshit story that was put forward.

Anyway, all it was a violent repression of people’s freedom. That’s all it was. We were living in an open air prison. Eventually, in 1976, together with some friends, I found a way to fool the system and get out. I applied in Austria for asylum under the United Nations Charter, and I ended up in Canada soon thereafter in search for freedom. Because I knew that if I stayed there, I would not be able to keep my mouth shut and somebody would inform on me.

I mean, it was very common. Probably 1 in 4 people in that country was an informant. So you never knew when you opened your mouth, like whether somebody was going to write that down, take it to the whatever. And then when you when you apply for a job or apply for an advancement or something like that, they will haul out your papers and say, well, Mr. Pytela, you have, back in September of 1974, at a party, made a joke about something, and that shows that you are completely not dedicated and devoted to the rule of the Communist Party over this country. We cannot advance you.

SCOTT: Well, that sounds like the people that turned in their friends who were partying too hard or weren’t six feet apart or went to an empty beach.

MARTIN: Yeah. Like that. Or this guy, he is not wearing his mask correctly.

SCOTT: Right. I mean, I watched Total Control.

MARTIN: I watched people beat one another up when somebody who refused to put the mask on wanted to enter a grocery store.

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: There were people so convinced, they were so righteous about their need to protect everyone from this horrendous danger. Which,

SCOTT: I have a slightly different theory about that, Martin. I think that the majority of people live their lives being told what to do, or if they are in a position where they interact with the public, they have to act within a very narrow range. The customer is not pleasant to them, they still have to smile, that sort of thing. And what Covid did was give people permission to be assholes, to be quite frank. Right.

MARTIN: Power, power, power.

SCOTT: Power, power, power. But they never got a chance to exercise that power. They never had any control. Now all of a sudden, they did. Right. And if you were a cashier and a black man went up and you were not black and a black man went up, you had to check him through. Right? But if anybody walked up to you and they weren’t wearing their mask, you could refuse to serve them. And I’ve seen examples of like videos of that. Or someone walks up, they’re not wearing a mask.

The cashier calls the supervisor, the supervisor calls, checks them out. The cashier goes 20 feet away. We would have called it racism if it was about color, but because it was about a mask, it seemed to be okay. And of course, everyone believes, oh, this is really terrible because the mass media is telling you this is awful. And it doesn’t matter that four years later, Fauci goes on, he’s in front of the Congress committee of something and says, well, we just thought it was a good idea to wear a mask. We didn’t know, we didn’t check any, and I did. When I heard about the mask, I went to the Lancet website, which is where lots of studies are published, and I did a search on masks and I found lots of studies, but I only looked at one study a year because I’m not going to spend weeks going through all this stuff. There was not one study that said wearing a mask was good. In fact, there was one study that said, because people always say, well, what about surgeons and people in hospitals? They don’t wear the mask to prevent bacteria or something getting into their lungs. They wear it more so that they don’t actually accidentally drool and drop a bunch of their saliva onto a heart.

MARTIN: Yeah, yeah, it is correct. You want to keep the operation site sterile and not contaminated, and you’re protecting the other side. So that was the message, you’re not wearing the mask to protect yourself, you’re wearing the mask to protect the other people. But even that is total bullshit, because it is the particle size that gets through,

SCOTT: Every study they looked at, they did a study where they put people into a room who had some disease that they could that they could test for. Right. Like we can test for this microbe. And they put them in a room, they closed the door of the room beside it. They closed the corridor. Then they had the person with a mask walk out of the room, down the corridor and through the door. Then they went into the other closed room to test for this stuff, and they found it everywhere, like almost instantaneously. Right. So there was no way that a mask would protect anybody.

MARTIN: I was going to say something. Which is this, Scott, the mask, it cannot trap the particle size that you’re trying to catch. It’s sort of like trying to block mosquitoes with a chicken wire fence. The particle size and the openings in mesh just do not match. It was total nonsense. We know it. They knew it and they pushed it anyway. And I think it was a form of showing who is willing to put the mask on and who’s going to fight it.

SCOTT: Yeah. There’s definitely a schism in the world now between people that are like absolutely adamant they’re not going to do anything that the government says regarding health. And the people that are on the fence, you know, a certain percentage of them have dropped off on either side. Right. Depending on whatever.

MARTIN: So let me just read a couple of more sentences about what’s coming. Okay. When Pluto enters Aquarius, we’re in it now for the next 20 years. We can expect the desire for reform and revolution to grow, especially in the area of science and technology and how society is organized. But first, all the problems with these things will have to come to the surface. We have to become aware of what needs to be changed and why before we can figure out what to do about it. So this here process, as we’re just going through, just reflecting on the nonsense that we’ve gone through. This has to happen in pretty much every area of what we do, because we need to figure out what it actually means to be human and how to live together on this planet without fighting over everything. Aquarius and we’re in it, is future oriented and wants to make society and the future a better place. All right. We will be radically transformed.

SCOTT: Well, the AI and the ability to put cameras everywhere. It’s absolutely amazing.

MARTIN: Yep, that’s the black side of it.

SCOTT: Here’s a question I want you to check on.

MARTIN: Yeah. Have we lost connection?

SCOTT: No, I’m just putting you in the spotlight, Martin.

MARTIN: Okay. Try me. What?

SCOTT: So here’s a question from Stephanie. Can you ask Martin about the info, I don’t know what info she sent, there’s a number of bills that the Liberal Party in Canada is trying to pass, which would make it illegal to say certain things on the internet and that sort of stuff. And he also already, Emergency Powers Act or whatever it was to kick out the convoy, the trucker convoy a couple of years ago. And what can we do?

MARTIN: Yeah. Canada’s in trouble because Canada has on its books this emergency powers act that the government can activate. And he’s done it. Trudeau has done it. All he had to do is sit down with the protesters and treat them like humans. All he needed to do is just say, okay, I see you have a concern. Instead, he spat in their face and said, you’re scum and declared the law.

SCOTT: He put people in jail for, it’s been four years.

MARTIN: Yeah, yeah. He de-platformed a whole bunch of people. I mean, it was amazing. The government, with its powers enacted, was able to take away your Bank account. So no money. They canceled your truck’s insurance. You have no insurance on the truck. If you had a loan on it and got called and so on. It was economic assassination of the people. And even folks who sent $20 to the cause had their accounts garnished, closed, stopped or whatever. It was dramatic actually. Well, Trudeau is about to pay the price for this hubris and for that he’s about to be sent, he’s a dead tree standing in the forest waiting for someone to push it over.

SCOTT: Yeah. So what can you do? First thing you can do is write to your MLA and your MP and your mayor. I think getting involved at the local level is really, really important. Find out what’s going on in the schools. There are books in the elementary school libraries that are just horrific, you know? Anyway, I don’t want to get into that.

MARTIN: That doesn’t matter. No. Yeah. Okay. So what can you do? Get local. Talk to your neighbors, talk to your family. Find people who resonate with your ideas and it will happen. I mean, it’s a slow moving thing. This representative democracy is a slow moving train, but it will come to a station at some point.

SCOTT: There was a law, it was the like the day before Christmas, the Congress people yet another 1500 page bill and basically said, don’t bother reading it, you need to vote or the government is going to go down and money, blah, blah, blah. And so they encouraged everybody to call their congressmen and say, don’t vote for this. We don’t know what’s in it. But it also was released and there was thousands of people that were reading parts of it and then saying, this is what this part says. And they found pork barrel like crazy, billions of dollars for this and a billion dollars for that and all like, stupid things. And it got stopped. And then it went from 1500 pages to 115 pages and got passed. So the idea of having these massive bills and then slipping in something on page 3241, paragraph 17 is hopefully over. And that’s the way that it should be. Like when you’re having a bill about garbage, there should be nothing in it about school, right?

MARTIN: Yeah, that’s the whole thing. It should be that you no longer can do omnibus bills. Everything should be line item vote, right. You want this? Yes. No.

SCOTT: That’s right. And a lot of stuff won’t make it through.

MARTIN: Yeah. The truck is coming. Everything that’s in it has to be approved. No.

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: No. And this is the power of no.

SCOTT: No. That’s right. Not going to do that. And it’s also the power of the people, right? They mobilize the people. The people said, hey, you’re not doing this. And you still have the power when enough people say like, no, no, no, no, this isn’t good, don’t forget too, everybody multiplies anything that happens by ten. If one person calls, then they think it’s the same as ten. If a thousand people call, they figure it’s the same as 10,000. If 100,000 people call, it’s like a million. And when it gets up into those numbers. Oh, dear. It’s scary for the politicians, right?

MARTIN: Stephanie just shared a YouTube link. I don’t know, we can’t really do that within this show. I don’t think so. We’ll have to look at it later. We can’t do it right now. We’re live on on YouTube itself. So anyway, what I want to say is this. You, everyone, you have the power in your wallet. It’s the money. How you spend the money is like oxygen to the economy. So whatever you buy, a replacement will be made. Because when you buy something, it’s like a purchase order for the next one. So be careful with what you’re buying. Get smart. Buy stuff that’s worth having.

SCOTT: Yeah. Pardon me. The other side to that is in the whole Covid thing, it really looked like it was an attack on small business because you can go into Walmart and you could go into Costco, but you couldn’t go into the little store next door, and of course, it’s the almighty dollar and we have inflation, and I think this is part of the reason why. But I think you need to look at Costco and Walmart and say what are the alternatives? Are there farmer markets? Are there farms nearby where you could contact the farmer and say, listen, I want a side of beef, or I want to get your vegetables and really work with those people. Because you’re going to get better quality food, first of all, it’s not going to be like mass produced in, in food factories, right? It’s pretty scary the way that they slaughter animals, for example. And we keep hearing about it. (And they recall tons of lettuce ?)

MARTIN: Let me try and put the big picture back on. So this story from communist ruled Czechoslovakia, the story there is that the means of production are owned by the state, by the government, and the state government equals the Communist Party at that point, too. So means of production, right? That would be the offices, the mines, the banks, the roads, everything. And the other way to get there is that it’s called fascism or corporatism. And you get to the same place, but this time the money owns the government. So in the Communist Party, the government owns all the money and the means. And in the fascist corporatist style, the big money owns the government itself and controls everything.

MARTIN: Right now, we have a system where a senator has to make a phone call asking for money so he can be reelected fundraising for political cause. So when they call me because I’m the billionaire dude, I will ask, what have you done for me since the last time you called? And what are you promising to do for me from this payment? I don’t even have to ask it. It’s implied. It’s known. I will not send you more money if you do not do my bidding. So there it is. The vote is for sale and they built the playing field in favor of the big business. You just spoke about the big business being open and small busines being shut down. That’s the