MARTIN: Hey, everyone, this is Martin Pytela for the Life Enthusiast podcast. And with me today, Joshua Flint of The Goodly Company, our supplier of Humic and Fulvic acid. Welcome.

JOSHUA: Thank you. Thank you, Martin, and thank you for the opportunity to share some of this information to help empower people to get better use of products.

MARTIN: Yeah, first and foremost. Yeah, indeed. People still, even though we haven't talked about it for 100 years, are still asking me, "What's Humic Acid? And why should I bother?"

JOSHUA: Yeah, well, that's a good place to start because we get, I get asked that a lot. That's what I say. From the beginning, our hardest problem that we had was educating people because 98% of the people have never heard of Humic and Fulvic acid. It used to be a part of our food chain, right? Until the chemical farming started. But the humic and the fulvic acids are released by the microbes in the soil up to the plants. And if you kill the microbes in the soil with the chemical farming, then you don't have that happening anymore and you're starved for nutrition.

JOSHUA: That's why people are overweight. They're eating, eating, eating, and they're undernourished.

MARTIN: I guess the most successful killer of microbes in the soil would be glyphosate. Roundup: carrots out of the garden. And if I don't wash it too well, I'll be eating Humic Acid, right?

JOSHUA: Well, it should be in the carrot itself. If the nutrition is there for the microbes, then the carrot would have it inside it. You don't have to eat the dirt to get the Humic and Fulvic Acid. It used to be a part of our food chain.

MARTIN: All right.

JOSHUA: Ancestors, you know, how could you come across a country and not eat for sometimes days on end? Now, come on. They had a much different immune system because they had nutrition. They didn't know what it was like to be starved of nutrition, really. I think the big starvation in nutrition came about when the chemicals came up.

MARTIN: Interesting point.

JOSHUA: And then the misunderstanding of synthesizing things, which to me, if you make something look like something else, but it's not that thing, to me, that's pretty magic.

MARTIN: Yeah, that's the ultimate switch, right?

JOSHUA: You know, they're just confusing everyone with lack of truth and knowledge. So really, the things that I've learned in the last couple of years, I've just gone, "Oh my God, if I didn't know this, I would have led my whole life differently." But finding that out now and then finding it at my fingertips, the Humic and the Fulvic Acid, which is missing, has turned into a supplement. And ultimately, we need to go back to where we raised food that's nutritious enough, that has it in it. We don't have to think of subsidizing it, right? It's subsidizing a food chain that has no nutrition.

MARTIN: Okay, so I hear you telling me that because we are making the food in an industrial manner using industrial methods on fertilization, soil treatment, and food processing, that's primarily why we need to compensate, right?

JOSHUA: Well, it's all to fit that structure to get the fast food. You know, the one thing that I've discovered through this is that the best tasting food is the most nutritious food.

MARTIN: There will be logic to it that our tongue is supposed to help us find the best, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah, yeah. So once you start to move over into the nutrition, you move over into tastes and things you didn't even know existed.

MARTIN: All right?

JOSHUA: And my journey through this has been coming from being poisoned and trying to recover myself. And yeah, the biggest part of that is the nutrition.

MARTIN: Right. If I remember right, the most trouble you got into was inhaling smoke from forest fires of toxic trees, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah, yeah. Outside of Santa Fe, New Mexico, and Pecos, New Mexico. Okay. In the year 2000, they burnt down Los Alamos Labs, or a big portion of it. You know, one of those controlled burns on a windy day. And they created a forest fire that was so hot because Los Alamos Labs was where they tested depleted uranium munitions. They fired millions of rounds of that into the Hermit's Forest. So when the forest fire happened, it burned so hot, it burned the roots of the trees out of the ground.

MARTIN: Oh my Lord.

JOSHUA: So much nuclear radiation that we came there a year later in 2001, and we ran into a lady that my wife knew, and her and her husband came over and visited us. And they told us a story about how they were coming in from north of Santa Fe during those fires from Espanola and they got caught in traffic and in the smoke. His wife died in the car. He drove her to the hospital, and she was pronounced dead on arrival from too many rads. Now, there was never any of that in the newspaper or anything, you know.

MARTIN: So nobody in their right mind in the government would allow this information to leak out, would they?

JOSHUA: Well, no, no, no, because they're all part of vested interests.

MARTIN: They keep us safe.

JOSHUA: Safe and desperate.

MARTIN: All right, so once you got on the detox pathway, I guess Humic and Fulvic are supremely important in helping the body get rid of these types of things, right?

JOSHUA: Well, when this happened to me, I was already an alternative cancer consultant for 10 years.

MARTIN: Yes. Okay.

JOSHUA: And saved my own life until I found out what had happened. You don't smell from that; you don't know. All of a sudden, I'm just losing weight, and what actually happened was it killed my GI tract, which I didn't know, and I stopped digesting. So then the weight just fell off of me. I went down to almost 100 lbs and didn't know what had happened until we discovered through synchronicity again, that we had been nuked.

MARTIN: Yeah. And of course, all rapidly dividing tissue gets destroyed. The gut is a prime target. The cells in the gut renew quickly. The cells in the eye renew quickly. So those are the most vulnerable.

JOSHUA: Right. Yeah. So I didn't think that a forest fire a year later, I didn't really put it together in my brain that that would release, but it did. And the teaching that I got from that has helped me help a lot of people.

MARTIN: Right.

JOSHUA: Since 2011 with Fukushima, and nobody's talking about it, but literally after that went off, we did then, and we still do, have more nuclear radiation in North America than in Tokyo. Because we're downwind.

MARTIN: Because we're downwind. Yeah.

JOSHUA: And when I went through the first episode, I had no idea what was happening. But having gone through it and experienced the symptoms when Fukushima went off, I'm standing in the post office, and I'm watching people and I'm making some comments. Everybody goes, "Oh, is that what's going on? Is that why I have no energy?" You know, people had no idea. But I could see the symptoms in them.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: And recognize them as nuclear.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: Without that experience. So then I come along and I come across fulvic acid.

MARTIN: Yeah. So can you explain how Fulvic Acid works?

JOSHUA: Fulvic acid is called the miracle molecule. Because it's nano in size, it's not nanotechnology; it's just tiny, and it'll go right through the blood-brain barrier and carry up to 60 elements and nutrients directly into the cell. It will attract to itself three times its own weight in heavy metals or radioisotopes and alter the ionic form so you can safely detox it. It's what I consider the only safe detox because you're not peeing back into your nest, you know? I mean, it's bioremediating it actually inside the cell.

MARTIN: Right. So how much of the fulvic would you say a person needs to take? Well, and we should discuss concentration, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah, well, the nuclear hasn't lessened coming from Fukushima.

MARTIN: Right?

JOSHUA: Okay. We're still breathing that in. It's just that the people have numbed out and they don't understand. I'm actually quite amazed at watching it and knowing what's going on and being horrified but seeing how strong people really are.

MARTIN: Well, look at us surviving.

JOSHUA: I mean, it's amazing what I've seen people go through without any knowledge of it, you know? And then being advised and helped by medical that has vested interests, that's where I'm at now. Having gone through the pandemic and all of that, it's like, okay, well, what's missing is everyone's understanding of how they work.

MARTIN: Right.

JOSHUA: And we've got the products. I mean, the products brought me back to be able to have enough energy and consciousness to be able to share this. And so nutrition, like I say, if you get the right nutrition— I got to see a window opened up with the Humic Acid and having people test positive for THC for years. And that happens because our Humic Acid has been tested for amino acids; it has all of the essential amino acids and, with the exception of two non-essentials, it has all the non-essential humic acids. And seeing that triggers stem cell production of the endocannabinoid system because that's the only way that somebody could test positive for THC; you're producing your own endocannabinoids.

MARTIN: So let me just say it in other words. You're saying that a person who is not smoking marijuana or hemp but taking Humic Acid has been tested and was testing positive for THC, correct?

JOSHUA: Yes, over and over again. In fact, I did that talk one night. I used to do science talks and had a doctor on, and he called me up a couple of days later and said, "Joshua, I just had a guy in my office, and I gave him some of your humic. And he tested positive for THC right away."

MARTIN: Great.

JOSHUA: You know, so that's the nutrition that we all need.

MARTIN: Yes. Okay. So we're all testing positive for THC from our endocannabinoid systems.

JOSHUA: Well, the understanding of the endocannabinoid system is central control.

MARTIN: Right.

JOSHUA: I mean, I don’t know if you can see this here, but I'm working on a board here to try to get this up.

MARTIN: Okay. The cannabinoid system. Yeah, it's a little hard to see, and it's really hard to hear you when the board's in front of you. I understand how you're tying it all together.

JOSHUA: Yeah. So everything comes from that. The other understanding that is of critical importance here is because there's this big push for proteins: your body can never utilize or absorb any foreign protein.

MARTIN: Right. It has to be decomposed into amino acids.

JOSHUA: Yeah, exactly. It has to be. And those amino acids, if they come from plants or the animal kingdom, will not trigger stem cell production of the endocannabinoid system.

MARTIN: Right. Yes. Okay.

JOSHUA: So, probably the biggest change in my life, a couple of days ago I turned 74, was stopping eating all animal products.

MARTIN: Interesting.

JOSHUA: And I'm a cowboy. I'm from Alberta. You know, I looked after 2000 head of purebred Aberdeen Angus, raised them, cared for them, and poisoned them with the same poisons I was being poisoned by.

MARTIN: Yeah, there we go.

JOSHUA: You know, but in hindsight, I'm the last person you would ever think would stop eating. But when I discovered what I call the foundation stone—that your body can't absorb any foreign protein—I went, "Well, okay." Then understanding your digestive system and how that works, you know, you understand you're overworking your digestive system to get the concept that you need animal products. Stopping the animal products was the biggest change I've ever made in my life. And at 74 years old—actually at 73, because that's when I went through most of it—I just turned 74.

MARTIN: All right, so let's talk more about what the humic actually does in the body.

JOSHUA: Well, I just want to say I regrew my body, and I regrew it with the understanding of the amino acids. Okay? So the humic, because it has all of the amino acids, that’s what we really need. When you put that as your goal at the other end, it's easy to get to once you understand that that's what you need. But if you don't know what you need, then where are you going?

MARTIN: All right, so how does the humic that you produce come about?

JOSHUA: Well, first of all, humic was thought to be just a waste product in the beginning.

MARTIN: Yeah, it was just compost, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah. The whole thing was to get the Fulvic Acid and devise a way to extract the fulvic acid without chemicals. And so that's what they came up with in the fulvic. And that's where our company started, because I put the fulvic together with the life crystals, and boom, we were off and running. We started to take the powder. A young guy from the factory came over and said, "Why are you doing that? You got the concentrate."

JOSHUA: So from a whole research project, I opened the book on Humic Acid and started to discover all the things that it did—all that was already there.

MARTIN: All right, so what does it do in the body?

JOSHUA: Well, providing nutrition, number one. But also, the humic creates what they call a prophylactic coating that puts a coating on bacterial receptor sites so the bacteria can't attach to the host cell or viruses, if you believe in viruses. But it stops virtually all. It's documented. The National Institute of Health tested humic and fulvic acid and found that it stopped Hanta and Ebola viruses, herpes, HIV, cancer, tuberculosis—all what they called viruses, everything they determined to be a virus— it stopped. And it stopped it by putting a coating. Now that's separate from the fact that the nutritional content is triggering the body to produce its own endocannabinoid system and start to heal itself.

MARTIN: Okay, so I guess it improves immunity then. And the second thing, it improves your ability to digest and absorb, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah. Well, it improves immunity. It also provides nutrition up to the brain, and people are brain-starved; they're nutritionally starved, so their brains aren't even functioning properly. So getting nutrition, if you just get this into people, you can observe the change start to happen in their intelligence and in their mental and emotional functioning. When that becomes balanced, then everything changes in your life. But if you're warped—which everybody is warped from all the misinformation about health and what we need.

MARTIN: Right. All right, so what can you say about the Humic and Fulvic Acid that you produce in comparison to other sources?

JOSHUA: Well, unfortunately, Humic and Fulvic have become a buzzword on the Internet.

MARTIN: It's popular.

JOSHUA: But 98% of the humic and fulvic is chemically extracted.

MARTIN: Yeah, well, that's what they...

JOSHUA: Tell us. As for what we have, we are the only company in the world that makes fulvic acid eyedrops.

MARTIN: True.

JOSHUA: And that's a testament right there to the purity of the fulvic, which comes from the humic and actually is humic. That's the other thing. There's a lot of confusion around fulvic and humic, but fulvic is just a smaller molecule of the humic; it is humic acid. It comes out of the same.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: As the rest of the humic.

MARTIN: So would you say that the fulvic for the eyes is the smallest of the small?

JOSHUA: Yes, it is. We have our standard fulvic, which is added to your water to drink. And then we have a fulvic that has molecules that are five times smaller than our normal size, which means it has better penetration.

MARTIN: Yes.

JOSHUA: So that's what we use.

MARTIN: Well, here's a question. I've seen other companies producing Fulvic acid, and it's kind of yellow, while yours is kind of brown.

JOSHUA: Yeah. Because it’s chemically extracted fulvic from the start. The best you can get, I think, is about 0.75%, and people claiming to have 30, 40, or 50%, you know, again, just marketing claims. But ours is actually 3.5% and is considered by the people who understand fulvic all the way over to Germany. They were even looking at using ours.

JOSHUA: Our fulvic is the standard because there's nothing else like it in the world.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, also, interestingly, your fulvic doesn't taste sour. I guess that goes back to the fact that it's not extracted chemically, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah. I just had a conversation last week with someone who puts out that black water.

MARTIN: Yes.

JOSHUA: But the water they're getting is from Noah Springs. We bottled some water there in 2012 with humic and fulvic. And it's amazing. The water is amazing. But it was in plastic, so I was looking to get it in glass.

JOSHUA: And so…

MARTIN: Yeah, that's a hard business because water’s heavy, and glass is breakable. It's really hard to be shipping glass bottles around the world.

JOSHUA: Well, it is and it isn't. I watched what went down with the… I'd just like to add to that, Martin, to kind of put a cap on everything that I've said for years. Once I discovered what the humic and fulvic were all about, and even observed what it was doing in my body, I discovered humic and fulvic are survival foods to get us through what we're going through right now with a lack of nutrition and being nuked 24/7.

JOSHUA: So how much fulvic do I use? I have a glass container that is probably maybe three feet high and about six inches wide on the bottom. It kind of tapers up, almost like I call it the Leaning Tower of Pisa. I fill that full of spring water and then I add the fulvic to where it's just the right color for me.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: Food. Everybody will… I didn’t realize this in the beginning, Martin. How—because this isn’t the way I am—when I read ingredients, I go, "Okay." But I usually take the maximum that I can take just to see what it does. Yes, I do things differently.

JOSHUA: I didn't realize people who have been on government meds follow everything to the letter.

MARTIN: Yeah, that's a funny thing that way. They always get many calls from people saying, "How many drops of this fulvic should I take in a day?"

JOSHUA: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you understand it's a food, like, you can't use too much. The fulvic is the only one that I usually say to take it slow in the beginning if you're really toxic, because you can have detox symptoms that can make you so sick—you never want to go near the stuff again if you don't understand what's going on. I had someone call me up one day about the humic, too, and say, "You know, you should have a warning on this." And I said, "Why is that?" They said, "When you use it, you should be close to a bathroom."

MARTIN: Yes, yes.

JOSHUA: So everybody's different. The main teaching here is to listen to your body.

MARTIN: Okay, so how many drops should I take?

JOSHUA: Well, the directions are actually a teaspoon.

MARTIN: Yeah, it talks about giving maybe 20 drops a day. Then, of course, if you get serious, you'll take a teaspoon or two, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah. It's just like, if you don't have a reaction until everybody uses as much as you want, and in fact, add in the humic. We are being poisoned on an ongoing, daily basis. So it really does make a difference.

MARTIN: Yeah, I take as much humic as it takes for my poop to be coming out black.

JOSHUA: There’s another important point in here about the fulvic.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: The fulvic is an energy drink because the Fulvic Acid is actually molecular oxygen. And so that triggers the spent ATP, your energy molecule, to turn back into ADP, and then it turns it back into ATP and gives you more energy. So, okay, that's why when we did the ATP plus, we called it the plus because you're getting the life crystals, which is the ATP, and then you’re getting the fulvic, which also tells the mitochondria to make more ATP. Many people are familiar with the term ATP being energy; you know, that was right on.

MARTIN: Well, okay, so listen, still, I would like to address that. Why or how is your product different from the typical stuff out there?

JOSHUA: Yeah, because it's mechanically extracted.

MARTIN: Okay, so there are chemicals, just water and physics.

JOSHUA: Yeah, well, in the beginning, they do use an initial separation with food-grade potassium hydroxide, I think it is.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: But that's used in the initial separation. From there, it's all mechanical. They take that, and really out of a tote of that humic powder, you have one stream that's coming out which is fulvic because it's way smaller molecules, so you have way less coming out. Then you have a bigger stream of humic coming out.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: Really, the two of them come from the same place, and it's just that when you separate them that way, they do different things. When you put them together, then you have... When you come back to what I was saying about the fulvic being the miracle molecule, carrying up to 60 elements and nutrients. But the fulvic itself is not, and that’s another misnomer. A lot of people say, “Oh, fulvic minerals.” There is no such thing as fulvic minerals.

JOSHUA: The minerals are found in the humic. When you move over into the fulvic, it's what I call in a quantum state.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: It is very unusual because it can give a molecule or take a molecule; that’s how it takes everything apart. Whatever you put into a Fulvic Acid becomes the Fulvic Acid solution.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. Okay. It's like a cage that holds other things, right?

JOSHUA: Well, it actually, because inside the cell, it will bioremediate the toxin right there, it changes its ionic form, its charge spin—really, it's identified as its ionic charge. Once you change that, it's no longer harmful.

MARTIN: All right. So I guess going full circle. When we start using this, we experience better health in the gut, which means better absorption of nutrients, better cellular detoxification, renewal of tissues, and better DNA repair, really, because we will be coming back in better shape than without it.

JOSHUA: Well, so much when I got into studying the endocannabinoid system from all the medical researchers and all the things that it does.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: When you come to understand that your body can't use foreign protein, the only protein your body can use is the proteins your body makes. When you fast forward that to the digestive system, and after it's digested, you can come down and go, "Okay, well, what do we have here today? What's the menu? What can we make?" And the proteins you make are antiviral proteins. You make all these amazing things that your body does when it has the right nutrition. But we don’t need to take them from the outside; it actually interferes.

MARTIN: All right, well, I can't imagine a better pitch than that.

JOSHUA: So you've got the fulvic, which is detox and energy, and you get the humic, which is the real nutrition that you need that will trigger stem cell production and endocannabinoids.

MARTIN: All right.

JOSHUA: Make you healthy, wealthy, and wise.

MARTIN: Right on. All right, Joshua, thank you so much for taking the time to explain.

JOSHUA: Thank you for letting me share.

MARTIN: Yeah. All right. Martin Pytela for life-enthusiast.com and Joshua Flint for The Goodly Company, our source of Humic Acid and Fulvic Acid.

JOSHUA: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.