MARTIN: Hey, everyone, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast. And with me today, Joshua Flint, of The Goodly Company, our supplier of Humic and Fulvic Acid. Welcome.

JOSHUA: Thank you. Thank you, Martin, and thank you for the opportunity to share some of this information to help empower people to get better use of products and.

MARTIN: Yeah, first and foremost. Yeah, indeed. People still, even though we haven't talked about it for 100 years, are still asking me, what's Humic Acid? And why should I bother?

JOSHUA: Yeah, well, that's a good place to start because we get, I get asked that a lot. That's what I say. From the beginning, our hardest problem that we had was educating people because 98% of the people have never heard of Humic and Fulvic Acid. and it used to be a part of our food chain, right? Until the chemical farming started. But the Humic and the Fulvic Acids are released by the microbes in the soil up to the plants. And if you kill the microbes in the soil with the chemical farming, then you don't have that happening anymore and you're starved for nutrition.

JOSHUA: People, that's why people are overweight. They're eating, eating, eating, eating, and they're nutrition. Yeah.

MARTIN: I guess the most successful killer of microbes in the soil would be glyphosate Roundup: carrots out of the garden. And if I don't wash it too well, I'll be eating Humic Acid, right?

JOSHUA: Well, it should be, it should be in the carrot itself. If, you know, if the nutrition is there for the, and the microbes are there, then the carrot would have it inside it. You don't have to eat the dirt to get the Humic, the Fulvic Acid. It used to be a part of our food chain.

MARTIN: All right.

JOSHUA: Ancestors, you know, how did, how could you come across a country and not eat for sometimes days on end? Now, come on. They had a much different immune system because they had nutrition. They didn't know what it was like to be starved of nutrition really. I think the big starvation in the nutrition came about when the chemicals came up.

MARTIN: Interesting point.

JOSHUA: And then the misunderstanding of synthesizing things, which to me, if you make something look like something else, but it's not that thing, to me, that's pretty magic.

MARTIN: Yeah, that's the ultimate switch. Right?

JOSHUA: You know, they're just confusing everyone with lack of truth and knowledge. So really, the things that I've learned in the last couple of years, I've just gone, oh my God, if I didn't know this, I would have led my whole life differently. And, but finding that out now and then finding it at my fingertips, the Humic and the Fulvic Acid, which is missing, this has turned into a supplement. And ultimately we need to go back to where we raised food that's nutritious enough, it has it in it. We don't have to think of, we don't have to subsidize it. Right. Is subsidizing a food chain that has no nutrition.

MARTIN: Okay, so I hear you tell me that because we are making the food in an industrial manner using industrial methods on the fertilization and the soil treatment and the food processing. That's primarily why we need to compensate. Right.

JOSHUA: Well, it's all to fit that, you know, that structure to get the fast food. You know, the one thing that I've discovered through this is that the best tasting food is the most nutritious food.

MARTIN: That there will be logic to it that our tongue is supposed to help us find the best. Right?

JOSHUA: Yeah, yeah. So once you start to move over into the nutrition, you move over into tastes and things that you didn't even know existed.

MARTIN: All right?

JOSHUA: And my journey through this has been coming from being poisoned and trying to recover myself. And yeah, the biggest part of that is the nutrition.

MARTIN: Right. If I remember right, the most trouble you got into was inhaling smoke from forest fires of toxic trees, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah, yeah. In outside of Santa Fe, New Mexico and Pecos, New Mexico. Okay. In the year 2000, they burnt down Los Alamos Labs, or a big portion of it. You know, one of those controlled on a windy day. And they created a forest fire that was so hot because Los Alamos Labs was where they tested the depleted uranium munition. They fired millions of rounds of that into the Hermes Forest. So when the forest fire happened, it burned so hot, it burned the roots of the trees out of the ground.

MARTIN: Oh my Lord.

JOSHUA: So much nuclear radiation that we came there a year later in 2001, and we ran into a lady that my wife knew, and her and her husband came over and visited us. And they told us a story how they were coming in from north of Santa Fe during those fires from Espanola and they got caught in traffic and in the smoke room. His wife died in the car. He drove her to the hospital, and she was pronounced dead on arrival from too many rads. Now, there was never any of that in the newspaper or, or anything, you know.

MARTIN: So nobody in their right mind in the government would allow this information to leak out, would they?

JOSHUA: Well, no, no, no, because they're all a part of the vested interests. Yeah.

MARTIN: They keep us safe.

JOSHUA: Safe and desperate.

MARTIN: All right, so, okay, so once you got on the detox pathway, I guess Humic and Fulvic are supremely important in helping the body get rid of these types of things, right?

JOSHUA: Well, when this happened to me, I was already an alternative cancer consultant for 10 years.

MARTIN: Yes. Okay.

JOSHUA: And saved my own life until I found out what had happened. Don't smell from that. You don't know. All of a sudden I'm just losing weight, and, you know what it actually did was it killed my GI tract, which I didn't know, and I stopped digesting. So then I just, the weight just fell off of me. I went down to almost 100 lbs, and didn't know what had happened until we discovered through synchronicity again, that we had been nuked.

MARTIN: Yeah. And of course, all rapidly dividing tissue gets destroyed. And of course, gut is, yeah. The cells in the gut renew quickly. The cells in the eye renew quickly. So those are the most vulnerable.

JOSHUA: Right. Yeah. So I didn't, I didn't think that a forest fire a year later, I didn't really put it together in my brain that that would release, but it did. And the teaching that I got from that has helped me help a lot of people.

MARTIN: Right.

JOSHUA: Since 2011 with Fukushima, and nobody's talking about it, but literally after that went off, we did then, and we still do have more nuclear radiation in North America than in Tokyo. Because we're downwind.

MARTIN: Because we're downwind. Yeah.

JOSHUA: And when I went through the first episode, I had no idea what was happening. But having gone through it and gone through the symptoms that when Fukushima went off, I'm standing in the post office and I'm watching people and I'm making some comments. Everybody go, oh, is that what's going on? Is that why I got no energy? You know, people had no idea. But I could see the symptoms in the people.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: And recognize them as nuclear.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: Without that experience. So, so then you know, I come along and I come across Fulvic Acid.

MARTIN: Yeah. So let's explain, can you explain how it works? How does this actually.

JOSHUA: Fulvic Acid is called the miracle molecule. If, and because it's nano in size, it's not nanotechnology, it's just tiny that it'll go right through the blood brain barrier and it will carry up to 60 elements and nutrients directly into the cell and it will attract to itself three times its own weight in heavy metals or radioisotopes and alter the ionic form so you can safely detox it. It's what I consider the only safe detox because you're not peeing back in your nest, you know, I mean, you know, it's bioremediating it actually inside the cell.

MARTIN: Right. So how much of the Fulvic would you say a person needs to take? Well, because, and we should discuss concentration, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah, well, the nuclear hasn't lessened coming from Fukushima.

MARTIN: Right?

JOSHUA: Okay. We're still breathing that in. It's just that the people have numbed out and they don't understand. I'm actually quite amazed at watching it and knowing what was going on and being in horror, but seeing how strong the human.

MARTIN: Well, look at us surviving.

JOSHUA: I mean it's amazing what I saw people go through without any knowledge of it, you know, and then being advised and helped by medical that has vested interests, that's where I'm at now is having gone through the pandemic and all of that, it's like, okay, well what's missing is everyone's understanding of how you work.

MARTIN: Right.

JOSHUA: And we've got the products, I mean the products brought me back to be able to have enough energy and consciousness to be able to share this. And so nutrition, like I say, if you get the right nutrition and I got to see have a window opened up with the Humic Acid and having people test positive for THC for years. And that happens because our Humic Acid and we've had it tested for amino Acids, it has all of the essential amino Acids and with the exception of two non-essential, it has all the non-essential Humic Acids. And so from that and then seeing that that triggers stem cell production of the endocannabinoid system because that's the only way that somebody could test positive for THC is you're producing your own endocannabinoids. Right.

MARTIN: So let me just say it in other words. So you're saying that a person not smoking marijuana or hemp, but taking Humic Acid been tested and was testing positive for THC, correct?

JOSHUA: Yes, over and over again. In fact, I did that talk one night. I used to do science talks and I had a doctor on and he called me up a couple days later, he said, Joshua, I just had a guy in my office and I gave him some of your Humic. And he tested positive for THC right away.

MARTIN: Great.

JOSHUA: You know, so that's the nutrition that we all need.

MARTIN: Yes. Okay. It's all test positive for THC.

JOSHUA: Well, the understanding of the endocannabinoid system.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: Being central control.

MARTIN: Right.

JOSHUA: I mean, I don’t know if you can see this here, but I'm working on a board here to try and get this up.

MARTIN: Okay. And the cannabinoid system. Yeah, it's a little hard to see and it's really hard to hear you when the board's in front of you. I understand how you're tying it all together.

JOSHUA: Yeah. So, so everything comes from that in. You know, the other understanding that is of critical importance here because there's all this big push for proteins is your body can never utilize or absorb any foreign protein.

MARTIN: Right. It has to be decomposed into amino Acids.

JOSHUA: Yeah, exactly. It has to be. And those amino Acids, if they come from the plant, from the animal kingdom, those amino Acids will not trigger the stem cell production of the endocannabinoid system.

MARTIN: Right. Yes. Okay.

JOSHUA: So, so the eating of the… Probably the biggest thing that I did in my life and a couple days ago I turned 74 and the biggest change in my life was stopping eating all animal products.

MARTIN: Interesting.

JOSHUA: And I'm a cowboy. I'm from Alberta. You know, I looked after 2000 head of pure bred Aberdeen Angus and raised them and cared for them and poisoned them with the same poisons I was being poisoned.

MARTIN: Yeah, there we go.

JOSHUA: You know, but in hindsight, I'd be the last person you would ever think would stop eating. But when I discovered what I call a… that foundation stone that your body can't absorb any foreign protein, I went, well, okay, so, and then the understanding of your digestive system, how that works, you know, then you understand you're overworking your digestive system to get a concept that you need to have animal products. And stopping the animal products was the biggest change I've ever made in my whole life. And at 74 years old, actually at 73, because that's when I went through most of it. I just turned 74. But.

MARTIN: All right, so let's talk more about what the Humic actually does in the body.

JOSHUA: Well, I'm just going to say I regrew my body and, I regrew it with the understandings of the amino Acids. Okay? So the Humic, because it has all of the amino Acids, and then the understanding of that's what we really need, you know, and when you put that as your goal at the other end, it's easy to get to once you understand that that's what you need. But if you don't know what you need, then where are you going?

MARTIN: All right, so how does the Humic that you produce come about?

JOSHUA: Well, okay, the first of all, the Humic was thought to be, was just a waste product in the beginning.

MARTIN: Yeah, it was just compost, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah. The whole thing was to get the Fulvic Acid and to devise a way to extract the Fulvic Acid without chemicals. And so that's what they came up with in the Fulvic. And that's where again, where our company started, because I put the Fulvic together with the life crystals and boom, we were off and running. And from there it was like a year later, before we even found out about the Humic. And we were starting to take the powder. All right, young guy from the factory came over and said, well, why are you doing that? You got the concentrate. What.

JOSHUA: So from a whole research project from, from there, as I opened the book on Humic Acid and started to discover all the things that it did, all that was already there.

MARTIN: All right, so what does it do in the body?

JOSHUA: Well, providing nutrition, number one. But, but also the Humic creates what they call a prophylactic coating that puts a coating on bacteria receptor sites so the bacteria can't attach to the host cell or viruses, if you believe in viruses. But it stops virtually. It's documented. And that was the first thing that I found, right. The National Institute of Health that tested Humic and Fulvic Acid and found that it stopped Hunta and Ebola viruses, herpes, HIV, cancer, tuberculosis, all what they called viruses, everything that they determined to be a virus, it stopped. And it stopped it by putting a coating. Now that's separate from the fact that the nutritional content is triggering the body to produce its own endocannabinoid system and start to heal itself.

MARTIN: Okay, so I guess it improves immunity then. And then second thing, it improves your ability to digest or absorb and digest. Right?

JOSHUA: Yeah. And it, well, it proves immunity. It also gives you nutrition up to the brain. And people are brain starved, they're nutritionally starved, so their brains aren't even functioning properly. So getting nutrition, if you just get this into people, you can observe the change start to happen in their intelligence and in their function of their mental and emotional and everything. Because when that becomes balanced, then everything changes in your life. But if you're warped, which everybody is warped from all the misinformation about what health is about and what we need.

MARTIN: Right. All right, so, well, what can you say about the Humic and Fulvic that you produce in comparison to other sources?

JOSHUA: Well, unfortunately, Humic and Fulvic has become a buzzword on the Internet.

MARTIN: It's popular.

JOSHUA: But the 98 of the Humic and Fulvic is chemically extracted.

MARTIN: Yeah, well, that's what they...

JOSHUA: Tell us as, as what we have. We are the only company in the world that makes Fulvic Acid eyedrops.

MARTIN: True.

JOSHUA: And that's a testament right there to the purity of the Fulvic which comes from the Humic and actually is Humic. That's the other thing. There's a lot of confusion around Fulvic and Humic, but Fulvic is just a smaller molecule of the Humic, but it is Humic Acid. It comes out of the same.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: As the rest of the Humic.

MARTIN: So would you say that the Fulvic for the eyes is the smallest of the small?

JOSHUA: Yes, it is. We have our standard Fulvic which is to add to your water and to drink. Yeah. And then we have a Fulvic that has, the molecules are five times smaller than our normal size, which means it has better penetration.

MARTIN: Yes.

JOSHUA: So, so that's what we use.

MARTIN: Well, here's a question. I've seen other companies Fulvic Acid and it's kind of yellow and yours is kind of brown.

JOSHUA: Yeah. Because it chemically extracted Fulvic to start with. The best you can get, I think is like 0.75% and people claiming to have 30, 40, 50%. You know, again, just marketing and claims. But ours is actually 3.5% and is considered by the people who understand Fulvic and all the way over to Germany that they were even looking at using our.

JOSHUA: Our Fulvic is the standard because there's nothing else like it in the world.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, also, interestingly, your Fulvic doesn't taste sour. I guess that goes right back to the fact that it's not extracted chemically. Right.

JOSHUA: Yeah. I just had a conversation last week with someone that puts out that black water.

MARTIN: Yes.

JOSHUA: But the water that they're getting is from Noah Springs, We bottled some water there in 2012 with Humic and Fulvic. And it's amazing. The water is amazing. So. But it was in plastic, so I was looking to get it in glass.

JOSHUA: And so.

MARTIN: Yeah, that's a hard business because it water’s heavy glass is breakable. It's really hard to be shipping glass bottles around the world.

JOSHUA: Well, it is and it isn't. I watched what went down with the. I'd just like to add to that, Martin, to kind of put a cap on. On the whole thing that I. I've said for years, once I discovered what the Humic and Fulvic was all about, and even the observed what it was doing in my body. But the Humic and the Fulvic are survival foods to get us through what we're going through right now with lack of nutrition and being nuked 24/7.

JOSHUA: So how much Fulvic do I use? I have a glass container that is probably maybe three feet high.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: And about six inches wide on the bottom. And it kind of tapers up almost like. Like the. I call it the Leaning Tower of Pisa. But I get, I put that full of spring water and then I add the Fulvic in it to where it's just the right color for me.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: Food. You're. Everybody will. I didn't realize this in the beginning, Martin. How. Because this isn't the way I am. When I read ingredients, I go, okay. But you know, I usually take the maximum that I can take just to see what it does. Yes, I do things differently.

JOSHUA: I didn't realize people who have been on government meds, they follow everything to the letter.

MARTIN: Yeah, that's a funny thing that way. They always. I do get many calls, people saying, how many drops of this Fulvic should I take in a day?

JOSHUA: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you understand it's a food, like, you can't use too much, like the Fulvic is the only one that I usually say that to be. Take it slow in the beginning if you're really toxic, because you can have detox symptoms that can make you so sick you never want to go near the stuff again if you don't understand what's going on. But I had someone call me up one day about the Humic, too, and say, you know, you should have a warning on this. And I said, why is that so? Well, when you use it, you should be close to a bathroom.

MARTIN: Yes, yes.

JOSHUA: So everybody's different. And, the main teaching in here is to listen to your body.

MARTIN: Okay, so how many drops should I take?

JOSHUA: Well, the directions are actually a teaspoon.

MARTIN: Yeah, it talks about. It talks about giving maybe 20 drops a day. And then, of course, if you get serious, you'll take a teaspoon or two, right?

JOSHUA: Yeah. It's just like, if you don't have a reaction until everybody uses much as you want, and in fact, add in the Humic then. Because we are being poisoned on an ongoing, daily basis. So it really does make a difference.

MARTIN: Yeah, I take as much Humic as it takes for my poop to be coming out black.

JOSHUA: There's another important point in here on the Fulvic.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: The Fulvic is an energy drink because the Fulvic Acid is actually molecular oxygen. And so that triggers the spent ATP, your energy molecule, and turns into ADP. It turns it back into ATP and gives you more energy. So, okay, that's really the reason when, when we did the ATP plus that we called the plus because you're getting the life crystals, which is the ATP, and then you're getting the Fulvic, which is also telling the mitochondria to make more ATP. So, and then, and then people being familiar with the term ATP and being energy, you know, that was the right, right on that one. But the Humic is.

MARTIN: Well, okay, so listen, still I would like to address that. Why or how your product is different from the typical out there.

JOSHUA: Yeah, because it's mechanically extracted.

MARTIN: Okay, so there's chemicals, just water and physics.

JOSHUA: Yeah, yeah. Well, in the beginning, they do use an initial separation with food grade potassium hydroxide, I think it is.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: But that's the, it that's used in the initial separation. From there, it's all mechanical. And so they, they, they take that. And then really out of, out of a tote of that Humic powder, you have one stream that's coming out, that's Fulvic, because it's way smaller molecules, so you have way less coming out. And then you have a bigger stream of Humic coming out.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: So really the two of them come from the same place and it's just that when you separate them like that, then they do different things. But when you put them together like that, then you have. When you come back to what I was saying about the folk being the miracle molecule carrying up to 60 elements and nutrients. But you see, the Fulvic is not. That's another misnomer. A lot of people say, oh, Fulvic minerals. There is no such thing as Fulvic minerals.

JOSHUA: There's. The minerals are in the Humic. Okay. But when you move over into the Fulvic, it's what I call in a quantum state.

MARTIN: Okay.

JOSHUA: It is very unusual because it can give a molecule or take a molecule, and that's how it takes everything apart. Whatever you put into a Fulvic Acid becomes the Fulvic Acid solution.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. Okay. It's like a cage that holds other things, right?

JOSHUA: Well, it actually, it actually, because it inside the cell, it will, it will transmute. Bioremediate the toxin right there because it changes its ionic form. It's charge spin. The spin really? But, but it's, it's identified as the ionic charge. And once you change that, it's no longer harmful.

MARTIN: All right. So I guess going full circle. So when we start using this, we experience better health in the gut, which means better absorption of nutrients, better cellular detoxification, renewal of tissues. Better DNA repair really, because we will be coming back in a better shape than without it.

JOSHUA: Well, so much when I got into studying the endocannabinoid system from all the medical researchers and all the things that it does.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSHUA: When you come to the understanding that your body can't use foreign protein, the only protein your body can use is the proteins your body makes. So when you, when you fast forward that to the digestive system. And, and the duodenum, the DNA can, after it's digested, you can come down and go, okay, well, what do we got here today? What's the, what's the menu? What can we make? Yes, and the proteins. You make, antiviral proteins. You make all these amazing things that your body does when it has the right nutrition. But we don't need to take them from the outside. It actually interferes.

MARTIN: All right, well I can't imagine a better pitch than that.

JOSHUA: So you've got, you got the Fulvic, which is detox and energy, and you get the Humic, which is the real nutrition that you need that will trigger stem cell production and endocannabinoids.

MARTIN: All right.

JOSHUA: Make you healthy, wealthy and wise.

MARTIN: Right on. All right, Joshua, thank you so much for taking the time to explain.

JOSHUA: Thank you for letting me share because.

MARTIN: Yeah. All right. Martin Pytela for life-enthusiast.com and Joshua Flint for The Goodly Company, our source of Humic and Fulvic Acid.

JOSHUA: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.