Ormus User Reports - Part 1
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One commentary suggested that this ormus thing was a scam. Scam? On
a personal level and speaking from my heart, there is one thing I do
know. After taking Ormus after only a few days I felt a profound difference,
physically and emotionally. I was very very ill with a hybridized form
of the West Nile and it was definitely getting the best of me. I was
on several neurological drugs with several terrible side effects. I
could not read, drive, or even walk a short distance. I could just sleep.
Neuropathy was everywhere in my body and I was also starting to loose
sensation in my lower torso and was tripping and stumbling. I was also
experiencing problem with my breathing due to damage from the virus.
Then there was Manna Tonic and my life had entered a new realm immediately.
Since, I have tried many forms of Ormus, moderation is the key.
My neurologist said that I would be on these drugs for at least a year
if not longer. Several people here are still experiencing paralysis
on a continual basis. I gave a presentation at a school with an individual
whom has been in the hospital several times from the virus due to paralysis.
This person caught the virus the same time I did and is still taking
all of the drugs. I have shared my experience with her. We both caught
the virus in August of 2003.
By week number three I was off of all of my drugs against the advice
of my doctor. I still have some neuropathy it is slowly healing but
I am alive and growing on levels I never knew existed.
Scam?
In my heart and my experience I know this is not the case. I am alive
and have a sense of inner peace that I never thought possible. Time
for a new reality. Peace and Love to all of you, Don
Gifford.
I see questions of this sort a lot:
- I've tried about 5 products over the last 3 months and I don't feel
anything. Is this common?
- I have been taking ormus for about 3 months. I tried white dove,
liquid chi and golden tear. I think I feel a general sense of well
being. I have not found any product that I can definitively say that
I really felt anything spiritual.
- I was wondering what is the strongest product out there just to
feel something.Something that after you tried it you would say to
yourself this stuff really does something.
These are just a few examples of letters I receive from people. As
both an ormus supplier and someone who has been directly and intensely
involved with the phenomenon for years, I have received letters and
inquiries of this type countless times. Having to respond to them is
one of the most difficult and often depressing things I must do as I
play out my part in the continuing evolution of the human species. This
is not because I feel that it's a chore or a burden on my time, but
because I know that the truthful answers I must give are always a letdown
to the recipient, and trust me - I feel your pain. So, without further
ado, let me quickly and thoroughly burst all of your bubbles:
The immediately perceptible physiological effects of Ormus materials
are EXTREMELY subtle, so subtle that in most instances your body must
already be totally flooded with them and you must be a very sensitive
individual i.e., an experienced meditator who is highly attuned to enhanced
/ altered states of consciousness and perception (think: 70-year-old
Buddhist monk) to even detect their activity at all. That is why Barry
Carter's site is named SubtleEnergies. The "feeling" you will
get from taking one-tenth of
one-half of one-quarter of a 2 mg. Valium tablet is about 100 times
more noticeable to the untrained individual than a gallon of high-grade
Ormus shotgunned through a beer bong. The best you can hope for is a
little temporary increase in the "hu" or "nada"
sound - if you can hear it at all yet - and perhaps a slight sensation
of pressure about the temples, as if you were wearing a baseball cap
that is one size too small.
The one exception to this is of course the fabled "Real Thing"
- the synthetic ORME cooked up by David Hudson's chemists. This substance
has a relative psychoactive potency level roughly 70 times more intense
than d-lysergic acid tartarate, commonly known as "LSD" or
"acid." It is so strong that ingesting a dose of just 5 or
6 millionths of a gram will leave pretty much anybody this side of the
Dalai Lama babbling incoherently, and tightly laced into a strait jacket
drooling at the nearest Rubber Room Inn for 60 to 90 days, followed
by their never ever wanting to hear the words "White Gold"
mentioned again in their entire life. And absolutely the most bizarre,
unexplainable phenomenon of all is that everybody seems to think - "ah,
bullsh#t, that wouldn't happen to me - I could handle it." Many
of you reading this are thinking that right this minute, I know you
are.
It's a totally baffling situation. Nobody in their right mind, after
having been told that eating a tablespoonful of mercury chloride would
send them screaming to the emergency room with excruciating stomach
pains followed quickly by total insanity, uncontrollable convulsions
and swift death would think - "Aw, hell, I don't believe that'll
happen to me, I want to try a leetle ol' taste anyhow!" Yet this
is exactly the situation with ORME. It's like everybody thinks there
is some elite private clique of ORME-eaters that secretly meet behind
closed doors to snort up big fat lines of ORME off of a golden mirror
and conspire with the gods to deprive the rest of the world of it under
the excuse that "they can't handle it." It's absolutely unbelievable,
and a truly sad testimonial to the state the world is in today, and
as to how unhappy most of us are with our lives and how desperate we
are to attain something better; some peace of mind, somehow, anyhow
- even if we lose our minds in the process - maybe it would be better
than this.
But all is not lost. if you can manage to get past the "Harry
Potter Syndrome" - that burning desire to take a pinch of magic
dust, feel "an incredible rush" and instantly leave your body
and zoom up out the chimney to have tea with Buddha on the astral plane.
M-state materials will have an absolutely amazing effect upon your existence.
What they will do is accelerate the manifestation of your thoughts and
desires into physical reality, which is the reason we are all here.
Take a second or two and really think about what I just said. The universe
is actually a machine - an amazingly wondrous machine - it's an "experience
generator" a bona fide
mechanism whose standard procedure is really very simple; it assumes
that you are a capable master of creation, and it takes the things that
you mentally focus on and think about all the time and brings them into
the 3D world as real physical events for you to experience and learn
from.
Due to the fact that this typically happens at a snail's pace, many
of us go through life thinking that things just randomly happen TO us,
rather than understanding that we actually make them happen FOR us to
learn from, and that our own thoughts, words and actions are what makes
the things in our lives happen the way that they do. Once you understand
this, and commit to changing your thought processes, and consciously
controlling the way you react to the things that happen to you, and
how you react and relate to those around you, and continue to patiently
saturate your body with M-state - that experiential manifestation process
will greatly accelerate, indeed it can become totally mind-boggling,
trust me!
I could go on for hours, but I've probably lost many of you already.
If you are asking the kind of questions like the ones that I quoted
above, then you've probably already learned about "recreational
drugs" and found them wanting, or else you wouldn't be here, you'd
be out burning a blunt and bangin' your head with the crew. Realize
that something brought you to this forum. Something led you to find
out about this material. Don't be so surprised to learn that it does
not "live up" to your pre-conceived notions about it - it
just doesn't work that way, but it does work.
Joe Lello
Love -Truth - Beauty - Trust - Harmony - Peace
http://www.atlantisalchemy.com
It is one path with many entrance ramps, only one of which is ORMUS.
The idea is to build the Light Body itself, not to "feel it."
To
spiritualize the physical body and increase the vibratory rate to such
a point it allows for exploration of the expanded "higher"
energetic states consciously. This is almost precisely what this has
been for me, much attenuated by the ORMUS intake.
I have taken many products over the years I have been taking ORMUS,
but mostly I drink trap water. I have had WPG prepared like Hudson supposedly
did, I have taken most of the commercially available products. I have
even consumed the elusive "Red Tincture" from two(!) different
sources. It was all the same effect. The effect has been a huge increase
in internal vibratory rate and expansion of all my physical and non=physical
senses. I believe I am aware of and simultaneously "being"
in many dimensional folds or levels as I have consciousness at those
levels with my physical eyes open. It has been very helpful to me to
read Robert Monroe's series of books (three of them) on Out of Body
experiences, as put in context I think this is what is "happening",
though I am also certain I am doing this for me from a higher (wider?)
perspective, which I call my Highest Self, HS.
This inner guide has many suits of clothing and endless experience,
and is me at a monad level (or perhaps the Monad). In any case, his
books have provided a map of those expanded states, and some definition
and structure for the left brain to use in exploration. I have been
fortunate enough to go to several programs at the Monroe Institute in
Virginia (a five hour drive away), and it has with the binaural beat
programming in the isolation booths provided an overlapping experience
hugely enhanced by ORMUS. Binaural beats induce IDENTICAL eeg changes
as ORMUS does.
Intake of the ORMUS will cause full brain synchronization on eeg instruments
within minutes of ingestion, and with practice deep delta and spindles
of gamma can be produced for several MINUTES at a time. The Dalai Lama
sent his best and most experienced meditators to the Monroe Institute
and they recorded their spindles of gamma rhythm and produced binaural
CDs which induce similar spindles. ORMUS does the same. Sungazing does
the same. I cannot tell if it is the Melatonin and Pinoline and other
neurotransmitters that are released as a result of the spindles, or
if the spindles are the result of the release. Such substances can be
measured, and it has been confirmed that such releases can be induced
in several ways (essential oils, binaural beats, Sungazing, ORMUS, etc.).
Either way, the result is ecstatic and now channeled such that I remain
mostly (60%) in my physical C-1 level consciousness body. This has been
most intriguing, as I initially thought they were overwhelming full-body
non-sexual orgasms. This is much more controllable now with experience.
I can easily see energetic auras many layers deep on people. Physical
ills are immediately apparent, and reading the fields allows what some
might call mind reading and healing (though this does not mean cure
necessarily). I receive verbal guidance about what to do and what to
tell the person if it is important that they know something, but I am
not clear if it is from their guide(s) or my own. I think it is the
same. It is difficult to be in a crowd. Most people do not think about
uplifting things or even have many happy thoughts, and the consumer
and fear society we see and watch on TV and such feeds it all. Trees,
rocks, birds—everything on which attention is fixed glows with
energy. I find that I can see it and hear it when I allow myself. I
am "hearing" the elementals and the nature divas, the faeries
and the gnomes and leprechauns and such. I do not talk about it much,
because it seems so unreasonable to my rational mind. I remember similar
experiences as a child before it was trained out of me.
My out of body experience has been helped by my map of "out there."
Mind awake-body asleep (Focus 10), then Universal Focus (Focus 12),
then the Void (Focus 15) and the Rainbow Bridge (Focus 21), the first
fully out of physical level where it is possible to "meet"
your expanded selves and your guides. And more expanded areas beyond
(all the belief levels including the Flaming Pits and Angelic Choirs,
everything anyone has ever imagined), and then Focus 27. It is "there"
exists the Healing and Rejuvenation areas, Great Libraries of Akashic
Records and Planning for one's next physical voyage -- The Park at the
end of the tunnel of Light many people describe in near death experiences.
And levels more universal and senior than these, where HS resides, where
God calls to the I AM, where you came from….
I have begun to "see" the ORMUS as an aquamarine and purplish
iridescence and have modified my homemade magnetic trap to increase
the amount I can concentrate from the water. I agree that water can
hold many many times the amount as a dry powder. I MUCH prefer the naturally
occurring types to the tortured metals, and it seems easy to "see"
who takes what (or has never tried anything) by the energy associated
with the posts.
I cannot say I ever "felt" it more than a little buzz and
the "M-state whirlies". What is this "I can't feel it"
all the time? What is it that you expect to feel? You can "feel"
morphine, but it leads nowhere. What you will "feel" is your
Highest Self trying once again
to get your attention and get you to..... awaken. "Nothing real
can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the Peace of God."
I am nothing you are not. What I can do, you can do. This and more
shall you, too, do. I did not find that the amount matters, or the source
so much as my intention.
Thomas
www.cherokeegold.net
You have my permission to print the following letter I am sending you
in hopes it might benefit others... that those who seek will find the
info... for aren't we all in service?
To refresh your memory, my 8 year old grandson was diagnosed with Duchenne
Muscular Dystrophy (dmd). He slowly deteriorated (it had been coming
on for a few years but we've never had any experience with md and didn't
recognize the signs). Then suddenly the progression of the disease accelerated.
He had problems walking, falling down often; raising himself off the
floor became a challenge. He is unable to climb stairs, having to crawl
up the stairs. After crawling up the stairs a couple of times he would
be exhausted and I would have to carry him up and down the stairs. His
energy level was low, tiring very easily. His arm and leg muscles caused
him pain and cramped often during the day, even when he was laying in
bed. His breathing was labored after physical exertion. He had been
experiencing abdominal pains for over a year and they had been getting
increasingly worse to where the school nurse calls for him to be picked
up, missing many days of school. He would wake up with abdominal pain,
have it just before eating, during meal times, be unable to finish his
meals and have pain after meals. He is also a finicky eater and generally
is a poor eater. He has night sweats, nightmares and night terrors.
He is generally a happy child but with the progression of dmd he often
became very angry, lashing out frequently at his parents. All these
are symptoms of dmd.
I had just received my order of M-3 ormus when my grandchildren came
over the following day to spend the night. The following morning I gave
my grandson 1 full tsp. of M-3. An hour or so later I fed him breakfast,
then lunch and later dinner. He did not experience any abdominal pain
throughout the entire day. His energy level was high, playing and running
around the house with his sister, being very active. He was able to
go upstairs quite a few times, not walking but crawling and walk down
the stairs slowly by himself hanging onto the banister. He did not experience
any leg cramps that day and did not fall once due to weak muscles. He
did trip once over a toy they had left on the floor. His appetite was
good that day and continued to increase over time to where it amazed
us. Imagine, such a marked improvement with just a 1 tsp. dose of M-3!
I am so happy he was with me when he received the first dose so I was
able to see it for myself. My daughter works many evenings and long
hours on weekends and would not have seen the difference the M-3 made.
It has been 4 weeks now since he has been on the M-3 ormus. He still
has problems with bladder control, getting up off the floor and occasional
minor abdominal pain when he eats the wrong foods or over eats. He still
falls, his leg muscles giving out when he over exhausts himself; and/or
it could be because my daughter has not been giving him 1 full tsp.
each dosage in order to stretch the M-3. But he hasn't been experiencing
muscle cramps in his arms and legs (it used to take 2 people, 1 massaging
his legs and another his arms in order to give him some relief), his
energy level is much higher than before and he can walk without his
legs giving out from under him though he still has to pace himself,
which is hard for an exuberant 8 year old. He seems to breath easier
now after physical exertion.
His night sweats, nightmares and night terrors are lessened. He still
has them but instead of screaming when he wakes up during the middle
of the night, wakes up with a start. There are less nightmares and overall,
concerning these, it is still better than previously. He no longer lashes
out in anger and frustration. He is much more in control of his anger
and has mellowed, being much more laid back. Duchenne's is the fastest
progressing muscular dystrophy. Generally by the age of 8 years they
are in a wheel chair half of the time and wearing leg splints. By the
time they are 9 years of age they are most likely in a wheelchair full
time. After that, the other muscles are worse too and they are using
an apparatus to help them breathe. They rarely live beyond 22 or 23
years of age. Life expectancy is generally up to their late teens. This
is why there was such an urgency on my part to try alternative treatments
and to catch it early enough so there is possibility of a reversal and
hopefully, a full recovery and healing of the disease (Edgar Cayce's
readings say a reversal is possible when treatment is started in the
early stage of the disease. That was of course, using his wet cell appliance.).
We currently have him on M-3 and other ormus, many food/nutritional
supplements and many anthroposophical herbal/homeopathic prescriptions
along with the M-3. The M-3 was the first of the ormus and prescriptions
to be given him; of which I am glad, so I actually saw for myself the
huge difference it made towards Wesley's well being.
Blessings, Helen
I have been taking "ormus" or "m-state" preparations
for nearly two years now. Barry Carter was enormously helpful to me
in deciding what to take. I had the opportunity to meet Barry and attend
one of his seminars about 1-1/2 years ago.
I have had about 99% remission of back problems and about 95% remission
of neck problems by taking this. I have regained nearly an inch of previously
lost height. At the end of the article "white dove" is mentioned.
The product that worked for me is named The White Dove. I have had many
other positive effects from it. It has helped my wife enormously to
deal with her female problems, and caused remission of one daughter's
Opthalmic Migraine episodes.
I rarely mention these things on other forums. Who can even prove the
existence of ormus? I sure can't. But listen people: this is for real.
I have come to the conclusion that these substances are not the all
and everything that some wish to believe, but they are desperately important.
If you start getting more of these substances back into your body (they
escape), then you will also be gradually led towards other things that
you- as an individual- need for your physical health. You do not have
to start out with man-manipulated products; there are natural sources,
such as kelp from volcanic waters (Hawaii, Iceland) and Tamahi Calcium.
There are also people making magnetic water traps to concentrate these
substances from tap water.
Daddybob
Hey Scratch; I am interested in expediting the manifestation
of things I want to be, have and do. Will you be kind enough to provide
some details on how you get things to manifest quicker or immediately?
thanks and have a great day, Ken
No problem Ken... just clear all blockages related to what you want
to manifest, emotional/mental/and physical, and voila, it appears very
quickly! WPG has been a wild trip for me. Every unconscious blockage
related to what I was trying to manifest surfaced to be cleared. I didn't
understand so much what was happening, so I resisted...and suffered...
I gradually learned to view the surfacing material as a positive aspect
of healing... and I cut back on the ORMUS... and things started coming
to me. I'm sure I didn't clear everything and I still resist some. This
ORMUS affects me different than most... Maybe that is a belief I have,
but when I initially ingested, I had nothing but positive expectations...
It is definitely amazing.. and again, I have to be very careful of what
I focus on...
~scratch
WPG will definitely expedite manifestations but the important thing
is to manifest those things you WANT in your life and the teachings
of Abraham by Ester and Jerry Hicks will greatly help in this regard.
It did me. Think about the things you want in your life NOT the things
you don't. We cannot stop the thoughts but we can control the energy
we give to those thoughts and that is the KEY. Get the book "Ask
and it is Given" by Jerry and Esther Hicks... it explains manifestation
better than anything I've ever read!
~Ekim
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